Recent traffic from /a/-viewers

The other day, somebody posted a link to my Madoka analysis on /a/ (archive here: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/106641443/). Despite accusations that I was the one who did it, I promise that I wasn’t the one who posted it — really! I was really quite surprised to see the sudden influx in traffic. Whoever you are, thanks for spreading the good word about the philosophically inconsistent terribleness of Madoka.

Honestly, I knew /a/ was bad, but I didn’t know they had degenerated to such a disgustingly low level of discussion. This really isn’t a debate. Madoka’s last two episodes are objectively indefensible from any reasonable school of philosophy or literary analysis, and if you don’t understand that even after reading my amazingly articulate, one-of-a-kind, million-dollar blogpost, then you have my sincerest condolences. For all those Madoka fans out there who seriously think that the show is even remotely philisophically legitimate, I know that living with such mental incapabilities must be hard for you.

Condolences.

white rabbit eating freedom fries

Although I don’t really care that much about the /a/ objections to my critique of Madoka (since the objections are all really stupid and child-like criticisms that I’ve heard time and time and again, and even addressed in the original post), one point that kept coming up was this idea that the ending to Madoka was somehow sad, emotional, and deep.

Really? There’s nothing sad about the ending of Madoka at all. In a world that Urobuchi sets up to be tragic, heartless, and absurd, there really isn’t anything sad about Madoka heroically “sacrificing” herself to guarantee everybody’s sweet sweet happiness for the rest of eternity.

Honestly, the real ending to Madoka should have been similar to what happened to Mami, Kyoko, and Sayaka — Madoka does something foolish and idealistic, but in the end the world churns onwards because it doesn’t give a shit about frilly little pink magical girls. For example, when Madoka makes the grand final wish that saves all of humanity (TM), it ends up not doing anything, and as a result Kyuube tears her apart limb from limb. Or something. You get the picture. If you seriously watched Madoka and didn’t understand that the entire first 10 episodes were entirely about philosophical absurdism (link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism), which is 100% contradictory with the last 2 episodes, then sorry! You’re just dumb! It’s unfortunate I had to be the one to tell you. Maybe from this point on you could consider reforming yourself and reevaluating your life decisions. Until then, feel free to shitpost on my blog. I welcome all comments that aren’t blatant spam, really!

azusa getting high

 

Oh also, while I’m here, I want to address this particular shitpost:

>>106642327
>Mami dies a pretty gruesome and unheroic death

It’s like he doesn’t realize that that was the fucking point. Has this guy never watched an Urobutcher anime before?

Holy shit, top lel, try looking at my post again kid. Sometimes I wonder if you people even know how to read. Just kidding! I don’t wonder that — because I already know that you don’t!

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5 thoughts on “Recent traffic from /a/-viewers

  1. I used to visit /a/ a ton and contrary to what they might believe the board has indeed taken a huge dive in quality.

    Any shred of intelligent discussion has been replaced by meme spamming and the content of a thread on any show will be “who is the best girl”. I mean, that’s an appropriate topic for character driven SoL shows but it’s become much to pervasive.

    Oh well. I’m sure they’ll begin to wake up to the absolutely atrocious level of discussion there when the board dies. I mean, /r/anime sucks ass and is disgusting but I’m tempted to say its better than /a/ as of late.

    • Yeah. I used to browse /a/ purely because their culture was so anti-Reddit, but now they’ve essentially become Reddit 2.0 and think that their unrefined and unjustified philosophical criticisms are legitimate. Oh well. What can you do? The best part is how their responses to this Madoka post are so laughably flawed and indefensible. Honestly, it’s not scary at all. I’d be worried if they were actually articulate, critical thinkers, but I doubt that’s happening anytime soon.

      • If I’m allowed to theorycraft here, 4chan used to actually have it’s own identity, but with reddit and indeed internet “culture” itself becoming mainstream 4chan has had to define itself as what it isn’t.

        That is, they are no longer 4chan, they just aren’t reddit. Thus anything reddit-y at all will be met with hate. Comments over 5 words in length, gifs from tumblr, the usage of certain memes, attempts at serious discussion, etc.

        reddit replaced the old boogeymen of Gaia Online and such, however I feel like Gaia and the weeaboos we used to make fun of actually had no intrinsic value, whereas the things /a/ is discarding from their hate of reddit actually do.

  2. They all seem like they are just trolling. But really, I still think the author just didn’t care about philosophy consistency, and just wanted to play with themes. There is really no rule written on stone that you need to follow consistency like this. Following these principles really that important?

    • >There is really no rule written on stone that you need to follow consistency like this. Following these principles really that important?

      Yes, these principles are very important. Your question is similar to asking “Is following logical principles good? Is having critical thought a good thing? Should literature and media follow actual themes instead of being random nonsense?” Of course you are allowed to have literature with zero consistency or logic behind it, but then you are consequently not allowed to think that it’s very good or meaningful. As I said before, I’m perfectly fine with Madoka as a piece of lowest-common-denominator entertainment, but most people who watch Madoka consider it to be some sort of pinnacle of dark, edgy, “philosophical” anime on the likes of Evangelion. Anybody who views Madoka in this way is therefore holding it to a philosophical and logical standard that must be at least consistent for it to be good.

      I know you’re trying to give Madoka the benefit of the doubt, but the idea that “you don’t have to be consistent” is just problematic. It is simply impossible to deny that the overwhelming themes in Madoka’s first few episodes were revolving around philosophical absurdism, existentialism, and materialism. The ending of Madoka then completely backpedals on these themes without an acknowledgement of why this should be the case.

      I would be perfectly fine if the ending of Madoka revealed something like: “Philosophical absurdism initially appears compelling but is full of flaws, and the real way to live your life is in the one that embraces the human spirit” — because that actually would JUSTIFY having the ending be completely contradictory.

      Instead, however, Madoka just acts as if the “human spirit” ending was always supposed to be the case, completely ignorant of the fact that it isn’t philosophically consistent.

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